FS FORCE

Hi Boss

Installation went fine.....looked through the Profile Manager but left
everything default to start. Load FS9.....no feedback....what the h*ll.

Back to Settings>Joystick Forces.....box now unchecked....no feedback.
Checked the box.....load a flight.....Feedback now working.

I didn't uncheck that box???? Did the install routine do that?

Tweak one of the profiles....crank the forces up.....load flight....almost
break my wrist!

Wow....now THAT is feedback!

Note to self.....turn the forces down on that profile!

Film at 11

FaxCap

Nope....on second look I have a problem....box comes up on FS9 load
saying FF has to be UNloaded for FS Force to work. Uncheck MSFF.
Get no FS Force feedback.....go back and check MSFF....no feedback?

Aircraft I am flying is assigned a profile??

Ok I'm officially lost.


FaxCap

FaxCap wrote: Back to Settings>Joystick Forces.....box now unchecked....no feedback.
Checked the box.....load a flight.....Feedback now working.

I didn't uncheck that box???? Did the install routine do that?
FaxCap

Note that under "Settings>Joystick Forces", everything should be unchecked.
And yes, the install routine did that.

Try to see if you can get some forces in the Profile Manager. Shut down MSFS, start up Profile Manager, go to the second page and select a profile ("Light GA" for example). Click on Edit Profile, and throttle up the Virtual Aircraft. You should get some pavement grooves and centering forces. If not, there is a problem.

Hi Russ

Nope....selected Light GA>EditProfile....throttle up nothing from 0 to 175
or so where airspeed settled....unchecked "aircraft on ground"...nothing.
Cycled gear...nothing.


FaxCap

Try going into Control Panel > Game Controllers > Properties. Usually there is a page there to test the forces on your joystick. You click different buttons and it plays various sample forces. Do you get forces there? Sometimes I've seen that "unstick" a situation like this.

You're running W2K, right? I haven't tested FS Force under that OS. Hope there's not a problem.

I can see now I need to add a trouble-shooting section to the documentation.

RussDirks wrote:Try going into Control Panel > Game Controllers > Properties. Usually there is a page there to test the forces on your joystick.

Nope....not under W2K & XP as far as I know. You can "set" the feedback
levels and Return to Centre levels plus the button assignments. Everything
looks normal....stick movement shows....throttle movement shows and
also the rudder twist shows....stick is working.

RussDirks wrote:You click different buttons and it plays various sample forces. Do you get forces there?

Not under W2K.

RussDirks wrote:You're running W2K, right? I haven't tested FS Force under that OS. Hope there's not a problem.

Yes I am and I also hope there is no problem.

RussDirks wrote: I can see now I need to add a trouble-shooting section to the documentation.

What could go wrong....go wrong....go wrong....go wrong?


FaxCap

As it stands right now the only time I got FF working was when I was
already in FS9 and I enabled FF by checking the box. At that point I had
HUGE amounts of FF.

I shut FS9 down and when I restarted it I got the warning box about
having to disable FF in the Settings.

The only thing that works in the Virtual Aircraft is the throttle. I have yet
to feel FF in any part of the Virtual Aircraft.

The trim worked for me although I think the Trim Rate should be at least
25% higher in Default. I do get the pop-up trim box and can't imagine
using the FS Force trim without it as I am so used to watching the Trim
Wheel movement to help me judge where I am.

The Basics are there, Russ....I can see the potential after that one flight.
Funny thing was....my M$ FF2 did some squeaking...actual audible sounds?!

FaxCap

FaxCap,

I'm a little suspicious of your joystick. Either that or it could be a Win2k issue. I've emailed you a little FF utility that comes with the DirectX SDK. You can use it to see if your stick is actually working.

I un-installed my FF2 4.0 drivers then re-installed them and everything is
working for me now.

FF in all aircraft I have tried....Virtual Aircraft in the Profile Editor is now
working.

I am even getting a feel for the new trim system.

Things are looking up!


FaxCap

Excellent!!

Just reporting in.....flew 6 different aircraft....tweaked a couple of Profile settings...everything working perfectly.

FaxCap